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[LoganG1K]

Anyone have a hook up? Dad has been looking at a new Silverado 4 door Duramax 4x4 or a 4 door tundra 4x4. Mom likes the Camry, Sonata, Malibu class of cars. I'd think if they show up at a dealer and want a packge deal with a new Silverado/Malibu or Tundra/Camry that would be the way to go as opposed to setting a Duramax and a Sonata, which is my preferred combo. They would probably put a large chunk down and finance the rest. Dad's aunt died and left him a little cash. My dad drives a 1999 silverado with 130k that is rusted to shit and my mom drives a 1990 Camry that is a good car but is starting to show it's age. They both need new cars pretty badly. The Silverado would be a trade-in. The Camry is a keeper.

[nsxmatt]

I sell for Don Moore automall. I can sell you a Honda or Toyota and even Chevys if that's what they decide. If you bought both I'm sure we can do a package deal. I'd go for the camry/tundra as they are much better product. Plus if you use the trade and cash on the tundra, then you can finance all of the camry with 0% interest if Toyota keeps it going. That would save a huge amount.

If they are interested send me a pm and I'll do the best I can for them!

[LoganG1K]

The reason he was wanting a duramax was because this year he pulled three bikes in an enclosed trailer through the mountains on the way to deals gap. The gas motor really struggled and only got 12mpg. It is the little 4.8l v8 gas motor though. Only 250-270 hp depending on where you read. Mom is mostly concerned with mpg and practicality. Dad likes horsepower and torque! But he also wants decent fuel mileage.

[LoganG1K]

I just saw that trd make a supercharger for the tundra. That makes it kinda interesting to me. Will your Toyota dealer put that on? Would you trust them to? I doubt I can talk mom and dad into spending 6,000 extra on a supercharger though. But they would save more than 6,000 by not getting the silverado 2500 with the duramax. How much does the sc affect the mpgs? They don't close on the estate until early September. So it's all in the planning stages right now.

[jdmitrna]

I sell for Don Moore automall.

awesome!!!! Didn't know you did that. How you like compared to parts?


Logan, good luck on you're search man. Sounds like you're looking at some pretty good vehicles all around. I'm sure you're parents will be good with any of those options!!

Oh and definitely go with a salesman you know......like matt in this case. I used to be in car sales, and trust me.....the salesmen take it upon themselves to inflate the prices (that way they have some wiggle room). And if you're not a negotiater (or go to a salesman that is much better at the game then you are) then you might be spending thousands more just because you picked a salesman who was out to make bank. Go with someone you know so you stay away from this. Even if you see something you really like somewhere else, it'd be wise to keep matt in the loop on it.....dealerships can get you almost anything new or used if they know you're gonna buy.

This post has been edited by jdmitrna: Jul 30 2010, 10:42 PM

[LoganG1K]

I didn't even know they made a 4.6l v8. :( that is the one he has his eye on. How did he go from a 6.6l diesel to the smallest v8. Especially after all of the problems we had pulling the trailer. Parents are no fun. I guess 310 isn't too bad but not my personal choice. Not my vehicle or my money though. I even threw out the 3 more mpg with the supercharger(left out the premium only part). Didn't work. Haha He is wanting something that gets good mileage. I sound like a teenager this pursuit of high horsepower is why my wrx went from showroom to blown motor in 2 years.

[anthracite]

Don't buy new. There are plenty of nice used cars and trucks available and they'll save thousands of dollars.

Steve

[nsxmatt]

Don't buy new.  There are plenty of nice used cars and trucks available and they'll save thousands of dollars.

Steve

While that is true, most new cars have low to no interest rates compared to the 5-6% or more you'll get on a used car.

[LoganG1K]

Are there many 2010 tundras out there? Dad wants the 4.6l over the 4.7l because of the better fuel economy and 30+ hp. Guess we have a month before we can buy so that gives them plenty of time. Would there still be good deals if they buy two used cars from the same dealer? We need to just go for a drive and see what we see tundra and camry wise. I agree on the used thing. Most people aren't beating the shit out of a camry. I think our key to getting a good deal is the multiple vehicle purchase. I could be wrong though.

[Hardrvin]

I'd really buy the 5.7 Tundra over the 4.6 if he's going to pull a lot. The gas savings between a 4.6 and 5.7 isnt too much, and if you're not a baby on the throttle it's even less of a gap.

You mention the S/C, but the 5.7 is pretty hoss in it's own right. Sure Chevy and some other claim more peak HP, but if you look at th curves, the Tundra blows them out of the water. And thankful, you're a person that understands power under the curve.

Diesel is novel for pulling and everyone likes the gas milage, but if you sit and do the math for MPG versus what the cost of diesel has gone up to, it's not such a big gap. Plus the nuisance of finding a station and to me it becomes a hassle. Lastly, because of the novel nature, they fetch a premium even on the used market.

[nsxmatt]

Plus the 5.7 can run on e85 if you wish, the smaller motors won't.

[Hardrvin]

^ Valid point I had forgotten. And the Yoter's maintain performance with the switch to E85, which the last Chevy I drove was a complete turd on E85, though that was a while back. Hopefully they've since adjusted.

[iLitical]

My dad has the 5.7, it's no slouch. I love driving it. Amazing truck. Strong engine. Just hold down the VSC for 5 seconds when u get in everytime ;D

[anthracite]

While that is true, most new cars have low to no interest rates compared to the 5-6% or more you'll get on a used car.

Save your money and pay cash. New cars lose 20 percent of their value as soon as you drive them off the lot.

Steve

[solodogg]

Save your money and pay cash.  New cars lose 20 percent of their value as soon as you drive them off the lot.

Steve

by the time i'd save the cash to buy a brand new car at today's prices, i'll need 3 new cars.

[anthracite]

Buy something cheap and save what you usually pay in monthly payments and then buy a nicer used vehicle once you save for what you want. I know we are all auto enthusiasts here, but for daily drivers a car serves a purpose to get you from point a to point b. The less you pay for it, the more you have for other things that will actually maintain their value or increase in value (investments). That's why my daily has 180k miles on it and the wife's has 131k miles on it. Both have been paid for years ago. It's been proven time and time again that the "warranty" you pay for when you buy new ends up just costing you more in the long run, even at 0% interest because once you drive the car off the lot the value just decreased 20%. So you buy a $30k car and it is instantly only worth $24k. Is the warranty worth $6K? Then look at how much a car depreciates after 36months-usually it is only worth 50% of what it cost brand new. Was that warranty worth $15k-36 months later? Just buy a reliable used car like a Honda or a Toyota, one that doesn't cost much to maintain, and use the money saved for something else. The stock market is down now, so now is the time to buy.

Steve K.

[iLitical]

Are your custom wheels an investment steve? To get you more outta your car later?

Not everyone buys things for the same reason.
The truck he wasn't is just for work.

Not all of us can buy a really nice car then dump 50k plus into it.
Then say u need to save money for your son, then buy custom order wheels.

I know I ain't got that cash.

My point is, maybe the iforce tundra is his daily, and his weekend car, and his carry all.

[anthracite]

Are your custom wheels an investment steve? To get you more outta your car later?

Not everyone buys things for the same reason.
The truck he wasn't is just for work.

Not all of us can buy a really nice car then dump 50k plus into it.
Then say u need to save money for your son, then buy custom order wheels.

I know I ain't got that cash.

My point is, maybe the iforce tundra is his daily, and his weekend car, and his carry all.

I was waiting for someone to comment on my modification addiction. Custom wheels aren't an investment and I never said they were. My Supra is my hobby and hobbies usually cost money that you'll never see again, but you do it for the enjoyment. Luckily I make enough that I can still set aside enough for my son's college fund and afford the custom wheels as well, but if I were real smart I would have invested that money, so I am guilty as well.

I am just trying to help folks out based on past experience as far as new cars go. I leased a Tundra a few years ago and it was a big mistake. I learned a lot from it and made up my mind at the time that I will never buy a new car, or lease as well.

Steve

[iLitical]

Leasing is always a mistake in opinion.

And I wasn't trying to pick on you, you just happened to be the closest thing to me. Lol.

[Hardrvin]

Leasing isn't actually as bad as it used to be. With the shift in interest rates, and what you can get leases for, a quick rough scribble of the math indicates that it's essentially a drawn out loan.

The catch with leases is that most people do it to flip the car every 3~5 years.

Getting a new (as in off the lot new) every 3~5 years is a bad idea. You own the vehicle during it's highest % of depreciation.

My point, leasing isn't necessarily bad, it's buying a new car every 3~5 years is.